
Two blokes, ex-corporate, talking nothing and occasionally something.
Banter with purpose. Maybe.

We're just two blokes rambling on about our many years in the corporate world. We mainly talk a lot of nonsense — but occasionally touch on the challenges of working life, how we dealt with them (for good or bad), and how we're adapting to lives of not doing very much.
The Nothing Box is the room men go to when there's nothing to say and everything to think about. We brought ours online. No agenda, no script, no producer in our ear — just two ex-corporate lifers, a microphone, and the kind of conversation that used to happen at the bar after the third drink. Sometimes funny. Sometimes useful. Always honest.
Our own scribbles.
The pieces we keep passing across.
Newest first. Everything else sits in the archive.
You may have heard that I wrote a book! I did it after I was made redundant and it gave me some purpose and structure in my life when both of those had been abruptly stripped away. A brief synopsis of the book and a link to my amazon page are below . . .
After episode 2, Panners talked about being made redundant, We've had a couple of people asking for a bit more detail about what really happened, so, at the risk of being too self-indulgent, Panners has written a short piece on his last days in the corporate world. . .
In Episode 3, we talked through our love/hate relationship with the corporate conference. More hate than love to be honest. Here's the list of the Top 10 conference 'things' that used to wind us up . . .
One of the topics discussed with Richard Smalley in Episode 4 was how positive cultures in organisations can encourage 'doing the right thing', even when it's easier not to. This article brings to life an example of when the opposite, a toxic culture, encouraged colleagues not to do the right thing leading to serious outcomes for the banking industry . . .
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